Compound Bow Peep or no Peep

mart1959

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can you shoot compound without a peep sight
i have a peep sight at the moment I also use a kisser button
as point of contact so does any one shoot with no peep sight
 


bimble

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yes you can not use a peep... though you'll lose the benefits that the peep give you.
 


geoffretired

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As Bimble says, you can shoot without one.
When an archer starts with a compound as their first bow, the peep can be a distraction. During the early learning stages of shooting a compound, it is important to get used to the shot process of drawing to a solid anchor on the face; getting a good aim with the front sight; and not having to delay while the eye settles into the peep. Sometimes the peep turns in the last part of the draw and that is a real put off. Sometimes the peep is not well positioned and the temptation is to move the draw hand to get a good view through the peep or move the head to get a nice clean view.
However, if you have made a good start without one, it is a good idea to try a peep for the benefits it brings. Some front sights with a lens need a peep to bring the target into better focus.

I shoot with no peep. Mainly because my right eye is damaged and I have a sight in front of my left eye. A peep in front of my right eye just makes a mess of what I see at full draw.
Recurve archers can easily out shoot me, and they manage without a peep. My aiming system is about the same as theirs so I should be better, in theory. I have a lot of let off and a release aid to help.
 


4d4m

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Some front sights with a lens need a peep to bring the target into better focus.
Interesting. So in these cases compound peeps are effectively rear aperture sights. A peep sight in rifle shooting is a simple hole you view the foresight through, but an aperture sight usually refers to a much smaller hole which acts as a lens, like in a pinhole camera. This has the effect of focusing both the foresight and the target when normally it's not possible to have both in sharp focus. Do some rear peeps incorporate an actual lens rather than just the simple aperture?
 


geoffretired

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If the front sight has a lens, quite often it will give a blurred image. A small peep aperture acts like a pinhole camera in a way and helps clarify the view of the target. Some peeps have a larger aperture and a lens is fitted ( called a clarifier) to act alongside the front lens to give magnification that is clear. A bit like a simple telescope.
 


chuffalump

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Sometimes the peep is not well positioned and the temptation is to move the draw hand to get a good view.
There are some archers and documents on the 'net that say that's exactly what you should do (Levi Morgan for example talks about setting his peep height differently depending on what ranges he'll be shooting). Then slight movements up and down when the front sight is at its extremes. Maybe because the eye is looking through the peep at a different angle at longer ranges, so the body of the peep obstructs the view of the sight ring?
 


geoffretired

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Hi Chuffalump.
Yes, there is one position where the sight and peep line up just right. Moving the front sight for a different distance means the alignment changes and the draw hand will have to move.
I think though, in the case of a beginner with a compound, having one good anchor point is safer. Having the peep line up easily and with no fuss, is good, I feel. Chances are the beginner will be at one distance for safety and for ease of learning. Many have enough trouble keeping the arrow on the blade through the draw!! I think a peep can be one item too many in those early sessions.
 


chuffalump

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Fitted my first ever peep today (the budget compound came prefitted). Not to bad, although I forgot the toothpick so had to separate the strands with my thumbnails. Turned out less than half an inch lower on the Origin than the prefitted one was on the Static. Weirdly though, my sight marks were a lot lower. I'd expect a difference due to the lower peep position but not nearly twice the value at around 20 yards. I hope this is a function of a much faster arrow speed giving a narrow sight mark range. Hopefully I can shoot out to 50 tomorrow and prove it.
 


Kernowlad

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Sounds about right Chuff; I had to make a lot of adjustments when I changed to the Origin.

Talking of which it worked a treat yesterday at a field archery tournament. And it's green so it fitted in quite well.
 


chuffalump

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Well that's reassuring. Mines orange. I was on the lookout for a green one as green risers are historically my thing. However, the saying I've just invented is 'good archery deals are colourblind'.
 


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