I am glad this thread is continuing.The more we discuss ; the more truths come to light. The more misunderstanding, too! And I mean MY misunderstandings.
I think we mentioned limb stability some time ago and it is back again. There has been a lot of chats about torsional rigidity/stiffness recently and recurve shapes and sizes. If I understood some of what was said, a recurve limb under stress can become unstable in the sense the recurve part would like to bend the other way. It's the sort of thing you sometimes notice when you string the bows,yes?
Stretch has reminded me about his aim being steadier with one set of limbs despite the holding weight being the same. Perhaps that is down to the limbs being steadier when under load. Kid Curry mentions arrow spine tolerance, and differences in two different limbs. That could be the effect of different torsional stiffnesses??? Or am I getting confused again?
Perhaps "forgiveness" is a good word after all, but it could also be misunderstood. I know Stretch has mentioned this before, forgiveness does not mean it applies to everyone using the same equipment. Perhaps the term "A forgiving bow/set up" has been misused at times by archers who think a particular set up will be universally forgiving; so it will work for them, too.
When I shot recurve in the 80's I had X7's. I also bought some Bemans to give them a try. They were awful! My groups were all over the place. What was interesting though, was the way I felt when shooting them. Not the way I felt about the awful groups, but the feeling when making the shots. The arrows were lighter than X7 and I felt that the arrows were getting out of the bow so fast that my follow through was happening long after they had gone. I felt as if I was getting left behind. I went back to X7 and the groups returned after an end or two. I felt I was shooting properly again. Later I went back to the Bemans and put some earth screen tubing down the insides of them. It was a close fit so it should stay in place well. I compared the weights and they were now the same as the X7. As soon as I shot them, I felt "normal" again, they were leaving the bow when I was ready if that makes sense. The groups returned too.
Perhaps I should have left them as they were and tried to get used to how they made me feel. Perhaps they would have felt normal eventually.
I think we mentioned limb stability some time ago and it is back again. There has been a lot of chats about torsional rigidity/stiffness recently and recurve shapes and sizes. If I understood some of what was said, a recurve limb under stress can become unstable in the sense the recurve part would like to bend the other way. It's the sort of thing you sometimes notice when you string the bows,yes?
Stretch has reminded me about his aim being steadier with one set of limbs despite the holding weight being the same. Perhaps that is down to the limbs being steadier when under load. Kid Curry mentions arrow spine tolerance, and differences in two different limbs. That could be the effect of different torsional stiffnesses??? Or am I getting confused again?
Perhaps "forgiveness" is a good word after all, but it could also be misunderstood. I know Stretch has mentioned this before, forgiveness does not mean it applies to everyone using the same equipment. Perhaps the term "A forgiving bow/set up" has been misused at times by archers who think a particular set up will be universally forgiving; so it will work for them, too.
When I shot recurve in the 80's I had X7's. I also bought some Bemans to give them a try. They were awful! My groups were all over the place. What was interesting though, was the way I felt when shooting them. Not the way I felt about the awful groups, but the feeling when making the shots. The arrows were lighter than X7 and I felt that the arrows were getting out of the bow so fast that my follow through was happening long after they had gone. I felt as if I was getting left behind. I went back to X7 and the groups returned after an end or two. I felt I was shooting properly again. Later I went back to the Bemans and put some earth screen tubing down the insides of them. It was a close fit so it should stay in place well. I compared the weights and they were now the same as the X7. As soon as I shot them, I felt "normal" again, they were leaving the bow when I was ready if that makes sense. The groups returned too.
Perhaps I should have left them as they were and tried to get used to how they made me feel. Perhaps they would have felt normal eventually.